about abortion

By Iowans for Life The culture says abortion leaves your mind and body unaffected. Scientists disagree. Post abortive trauma is common. Are you experiencing an unplanned pregnancy? You need to know two critical pieces of information right now: You can get help. You’re not alone. You have healthy options beyond abortion. Abortion affects you forever. […]

via How abortion affects the rest of your life — A Heapin’ Plate of Conservative Politics & Religion

7 thoughts on “about abortion

  1. J Hardy Carroll says:

    I agree that abortion is indeed a stressful thing for the women who are forced to undergo it. It has always been so, since the days when quacks and charlatans would perform the surgeries with sharp implements in dark, septic rooms, a service for which they would charge swingeing fees (sometimes accompanied by blackmail).

    For the wealthy, this was never a problem, for money has always been able to purchase medical skill and discretion in abundance. There are many stories of Catholic nursing nuns who, appalled at the carnage they saw when young girls (often the victim of rape, and always the victim of biological ignorance) sought out these seedy back-alley abortionists, would risk excommunication and even imprisonment to perform proper abortive procedures.

    In countries where safe, surgical abortions are outlawed, they are still performed. The poor women die and the wealthy women live. Who goes to hell in these scenarios is not clear.

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    1. larry trasciatti says:

      Abortion is always intrinsically objectively immoral and can never be even somewhat defended, although the subjective degree of guilt of any individual is hard to determine. There can never be a need for it or a reason to defend it. It’s always an act of desperation.


      1. J Hardy Carroll says:

        I know of cases where a girl was raped and impregnated by her older brother, so I beg to differ. I also do not believe that any man has the right to make a moral judgment on whether a decision made by a woman is immoral. Morality is between an individual and God. Men make laws. Morality is a spiritual principle. I do agree that every woman I know who has had an abortion has lived with an element of regret at their action. The same is true of every combat veteran I know who, when placed in a situation where there was no other choice, became a barbarian and took as many lives as they thought necessary, often with unimaginable savagery. There is no morality in such cases. That happens afterward, when they decide how to move forward and be of service to humanity.


  2. James says:

    I worked at a Suicide Prevention Hotline in Berkeley in the late 1970s on the graveyard shift. Periodically, I would get phone calls from women who had just had an abortion a day or a few days ago grieving for the loss of their baby.

    Years later, when my wife was pregnant with our boys (twins) and we were already naming them and making plans for their future, I realized that the only difference between a safely anonymous and non-human fetus and an unborn baby was whether is was wanted or not. Since then, all these arguments about when human life actually begins in the womb have become meaningless.

    My brother was an unplanned pregnancy and yet I never got any sense that at any time my Mom resented him or didn’t want him. He was just as loved and cherished growing up as I was.

    As far as rape and abortion, I suspect a very small percentage of abortions are performed due to rape or incest and that the majority, at least among the middle and upper classes who march to support abortion on demand, are simply the last resort for birth control.

    Having said all that, it’s an enormously complex issue and any woman facing an unwanted pregnancy and who is considering abortion has very difficult choices to make. However, I agree with the basic premise of this article that there is no such critter as a consequence-free abortion. That’s just the marketing being promoted in the news and social media.

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    1. larry trasciatti says:

      Rape, like suicide, is never permissible. At the same time, though, we have to respect the fact that the individual who chooses such a thing may be faced with exceptionally painful straits. Besides that, I know quite well that abortion is too frequently a result of selfishness. Each individual’s circumstances are different and I stay out of specific people’s lives when it comes to things like this. I can never condone abortion though.

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      1. James says:

        Another side to abortion has to do with unwanted pregnancy among the poor. The pro-abortion argument here is that it’s better to abort a baby than to have it raised in poverty. I suspect (I don’t have the numbers at my fingertips) that people of color who live at or below the poverty line may be disproportionately represented in the abortion statistics.

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